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    Dear Members,

    I have sold the 22” old stamp IVa 2348 grams cymbal to a Cymbalholic member on 16th February on the same price I paid to VeeJay: 2100 USD.

    I could not inform you about this solution earlier, because the thread has been closed from 7th February until today.

    I was thinking a lot about the situation.

    Originally I thought it is wise to sell the cymbal on market price - even in Cymbalholic.com - considering my financial situation and perspectives that time.

    I know I made a big mistake with that.
    It was not fair from me, so I would like to apologise from all of you!

    Considering I got a very fair „Cymbalholic” price from VeeJay I realized it would not be fair not to offer this rare and great cymbal in the Cymbalholic community on a similar price.

    The Cymbalholic member I sold the cymbal to was the first to contact me with his interest.

    So finally, I understoood I made a mistake originally.
    Then I did my best to act in this situation right respecting the unwritten rules of the Cymbalholic community I totally agree with.

    To express I really do, I asked the buyer to add 100 USD that I have transfered forward donating Cymbalholics.com.

    Re- the comments in this thread, I think:

    „VeeJay” did his best to describe me publicly the most unfair person without contacting me directly and trying to understand my position or discuss things in advance.
    I would not like to comment his cynic and aggressive messages here and the level of his communication before he sold his cymbal to me.

    Also, I tried to understand why „Blueprint” sent me a picture about an atomic bomb.
    Hopefully not against me, my family or my country.

    „Poetman” had a very intelligent comment showing all aspects of the situation, thank you for that!

    „Jda”, I am sorry I could not share a soundfile on your request after Zen closed the thread.

    Finally, again, I apologise from all of you I did not act fair originally.

    Best rgs, Zoli

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    Well played, Zoli!
    Sizzle swings....

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    Tks dear "Blueprint" !

    I am sorry if I missunderstood the message of your picture.

    On the other hand, I totally understand people's negative feelings about my original behavior.

    I made a misstake, it was not fair from me.

    All the best!

    Zoli

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    It meant that thread just went nuclear.
    Sizzle swings....

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    I agree, it did.

    I think it is easy to missunderstand written communication or pictures.

    Next time, let's call each other!

    All the best!

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    Glad this ended amicably. I am a bit curious why you required the buyer to make a donation, rather than making a donation yourself. Maybe I didn't understand something.

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    You can say I offered my 100 USD profit as donation, if you like.

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    Zoli

    Not concerned with your opinion of me... or your “situation” as you call it...

    Just glad to see you grew or have a conscience, can admit a misstep, and let fair play determine your decisions.

    I respect your choice to make amends and pay it forward...

    Better for the forum and pie lovers everywhere.

    Thx to Poetman for his prudent and fair handling of the thread and subsequent posts.

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    Thank you VeeJay.

    I am happy I realized I was wrong with my initial purpose.
    It is good that we can close this story in peace.

    On the other hand, I understand your indignation in your messages.

    Your 22" old stamp IVa 2348 g cymbal is in good hands now.
    The 20" old stamp IIa 1878 g too - the other one I bought from you.
    I consider that 20" as a lifetime cymbal for me.

    One question to all Members, pls:

    I have a great sounding 22" old stamp IVb (1958-59) cymbal in a weight of 2345 grams in good condition, no damages.

    However, I intend to sell this one on the highest price I can get on the market.

    I purchased this one outside the Cymbalholic comminity.

    Do you recommend to list this one here with more details, pictures, etc.?

    I found most prices are relatively low on Cymbalholic.com, which is good.
    I think it is great members help each other to buy good sounding instruments on lower prices considering most jazz musicians do not really afford crazy prices.

    However, I would like to sell this 22" old stamp on the highest possible price.

    Do you recommend to list this one here or not?

    Here you are a soundfile:

    https://soundcloud.com/kalmarz/22-k-...-59-2345-grams

    Thank you, Zoli

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    I would not sell it on here.

    You might feel terrible when the buyer flips it sometime and doubles it.

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