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beatin_it
December 6th, 2005, 10:55 PM
I've used this for 30+ years, but I've never seen anyone else do it. I'm sure someone else must have thought of doing the same thing.

I simply position my hi hat slightly overlapping the snare. When I need to play a cowbell, tamborine, or other part at the same time as the drumset, while using my right hand to play the extra part, I use my left hand to play the hi hat and the snare. On strokes that require both a hihat and snare hit, I slice through the edge of the hihat, hitting the snare with the same stroke. It takes a bit of practice hitting both the hihat and snare with the right slice, angle, and power to get the correct sound and volume from both. But once you get used to it, you have an extra hand to do whatever you want - play another instrument (even a keyboard), throw something at the bass player for not paying attention, wave at the pretty girl in the front row giving you the eye, or even scratch that itch that's been driving you nuts since the song started.

A few helpful hints: Keep the hat positioned slightly over the snare, set as low and close to the snare as is comfortable. That way there is only a slight time difference between the hihat and snare hits. Too far apart and the time difference between the hit on the hats and snare gets too noticable. Do it right in a live stage situation, and the time difference isn't even noticable.

Due to the time difference in hihat and snare hits, this is not something you want to do in the studio. However, in the studio, if you want to add an extra part, you just add another track. But, to add an extra track on stage, without having to train the singer, horn player, or soundman to play it.........priceless!

Give it a try. It's a lot easier than growing a new arm, but just as usefull.

Dylan
December 6th, 2005, 11:11 PM
Cool, I'll give it a try!

skangadang
December 6th, 2005, 11:37 PM
Interesting man! So, you mean you just graze the hi-hat on the way down to the snare? So the hat is coming a tiny bit ahead of the snare.......I've done something similar with my right hand for sambas, but not in the context you're talking about. Thanks for sharing bro......

Mister_Acrolite
December 7th, 2005, 07:24 AM
Interesting! I do a variation of this, playing what I call "one-handed flams," going from my rack tom to my snare in one stroke, which looks and sounds really cool. Now I gotta try your trick - thanks for telling us about it!


Mr. A.

ivmike
December 7th, 2005, 07:47 AM
This is a great idea. I have done a simpler version of what you've described for a while now. I play a left hand lead, so the entire right side of the kit is open to my right hand for just the things that you've described; although, I have not tried to play keys whilst drumming....now that's multitasking!

Instead of the hat/snare flam that you describe, I either "slurp" the hat or simply kick it to fill in the missing eighth note. This comes in very handy for those clumsy nights when gravity keeps eating away at my grip and I lose a stick.

Your flam sounds pretty cool though. I must try that!

jerrymathers
December 7th, 2005, 12:33 PM
I've been working on something sort of similar over the past few years, though it involves my right hand.

In trying to come up with interesting, sampled- or processed-sounding sounds, I've been working on some grooves that involve playing the hi-hat and snare at the same time, with my right hand. This takes a little choking up on the stick (or a lot if you want more snare sound), but I've come up with some neat sounding grooves.

Another cool part of this "trick" (I'm not sure you can even call it that) is that you don't have to play the two at the same time -- you can alternate (tip to butt, hi-hat to snare) and if you really go crazy with it, you can swing those notes (I haven't exactly mastered that).

I think this idea just came from a more common trick in which you hold the stick similarly (that is, toward the middle of it) and play tip to butt on the hi-hat (of course, the bigger, the better). Beyond using this to look cool, I've found it to be helpful for some drum n' bass grooves.

I like the trick mentioned in this thread though; it's certainly the type of thing you could develop into a really involved technique!

KevinRR
December 8th, 2005, 05:10 PM
I was just trying this and it is sooo hard!!!